Thursday, September 3, 2015

What can I do if I want to do House Calls (and get paid) but also accept Medicare?



Yesterday I spoke to a podiatrist who is currently starting a house calls practice. He is trying to maintain a more conventional practice to keep a steady income while he builds his house call based practice. He had a couple of great questions:

Keep in mind that I am not a healthcare attorney and I'm not actually a business advisor. I am just a podiatrist who started doing house calls and makes a great living doing so. But here is my understanding of the rules after having discussed these exact questions with my own healthcare attorney years ago.

1. Can I accept Medicare and bill Medicare for the patients I see in the nursing home, and then when a patient with Medicare has emergency and needs to have an ingrown toenail removed at home can I see them and have the patient pay me cash for the house call?

No. Either you accept Medicare and you are a Medicare provider, or not. If you want to opt out of Medicare you have to follow a specific formal process to get out of the Medicare system. I used a healthcare attorney to help facilitate that process. I now send a renewal to Medicare in order to confirm that I continue to be "opted-out" every two years. 

Any services provided to a Medicare patient by a Medicare provider must be billed directly to Medicare....never, ever to the patient. 

However, if you "opt-out" of Medicare you're no longer a Medicare provider. You are then free to charge patients directly. This is what I do. I charge whatever fee I want. Currently $300 for a new patient evaluation.  The patient pays the fee to me, right then. My service is completely unrelated to Medicare at that point...because I am no longer a Medicare provider. But be to be clear, I have had the patient sign a Medicare Opt-Out Agreement so that I have a record that they understand I am no longer a Medicare provider. This also is a requirement of Medicare.

There are huge fines and penalties for doctors who bill Medicare patients directly (if they are are still in the system as a Medicare Provider). My solution, as you might have guessed, is to opt out and refuse to participate in the Medicare system.

2. Can I have a patient sign a form understanding and acknowledging that they know I'm not going to bill Medicare...and that we both agree that they're going to pay me in cash? Is this legal?

No. As mentioned above is illegal to bill a patient for services that you provide if you are still in the Medicare system as a Medicare Provider. You must opt out and stop becoming a Medicare Provider if you're going to bill patients directly. The Opt-Out Agreement is only a specie form (signed by you and the patient) to inform patients that you used to be a Medicare Provider, but that you are no longer a Medicare Provider...basically that you quit working with Medicare. The patient then understands that you are not going to bill Medicare, they cannot bill Medicare, and none of your services are ever going to be reimbursable by Medicare. 

3. Can I opt out of Medicare and then also work under another doctor's Medicare number to see patients in the nursing home?

No. But I have heard from lots of doctors that they do it anyway. It is a very common arrangement where a new physician out of school will see patients working with another physician. Many doctors believe that this is a gray area. The doctor without a Medicare number treats a patient. The doctor with the Medicare number cosigns the note and bills Medicare. It seems like this is reasonable and should be legal.

I did discuss this with a healthcare attorney. I paid thousands of dollars for their team to research this and determine whether or not it was reasonable. In the end they said that it was more than a "gray area" in fact it would likely be ruled is downright illegal if ever tested in court. If you were to do this you could wind up paying large fines to Medicare.

To me, this just seems far too risky given the small amount of money that you can actually make the Medicare patients under another doctors Medicare number. This certainly exceeds my personal tolerance for risk.

4. Can't I just get a separate office address and separate business license so that one is a Medicare location and one isn't?

This also seems like it should be completely reasonable. However, as explained above, it is the doctor that is the Medicare provider not the office location. This question actually came from an anesthesiologist when I was in the operating room recently. She was asking me whether or not she could start up a concierge-type chronic pain practice on the side to make some extras cash.

Because she is an anesthesiologist and has to see patients in the hospital, a large portion of her patients are Medicare patients. Her anesthesia group of course bills Medicare. That being the case, she has to accept Medicare and bill Medicare for those patients.

Her thought was that she would set up a separate business that was different than her anesthesia practice which would only focus on chronic pain medicine, and where she would bill patients directly for services provided at home. Again, this seems like it would be totally reasonable however appears to be illegal.


With Medicare, it's really very simple...either you're in or you're out.


Dr. Christopher Segler is a successful podiatrist who only does house calls. He practices in the San Francisco Bay area. He has recently written a book teaching other doctors how to set up housecalls-based practice that is more profitable and avoids all the administrative hassles associated with insurance companies and Medicare.

Order your copy of the House Calls Startup Manual: How to Run a Low-overhead, High-profit Practice and Get Your Life Back 

Friday, July 17, 2015

House Calls StatUp Manual
How to Run a Low-overhead, High-profit Practice and Get Your Life Back

The latest version of the book that will get you started to a successful house calls practice is here, and as of today it is ranked as the #1 New Release in Physician & Patient Home Care on Amazon!


House calls may be the oldest form of health care delivery, but they are making a comeback. Why? Because it may be the simplest, fastest way to a highly profitable practice and great lifestyle. This book is the definitive step-by-step how-to manual for any doctor, physician or podiatrist who wants to shift from a standard-office based practice to a more profitable house calls based practice.

Here is the story about the book and how the author thrives in this medical practice model:

After completing comprehensive foot and ankle surgery residency training and winning multiple awards from the American College of Foot & Ankle Surgeons and the American Podiatric Medical Association, Dr. Christopher Segler opened a standard office-based podiatry practice immediately out of residency. Through hard work and creative marketing efforts, his practice grew rapidly, and he soon had a full schedule—too full, in fact. He found himself leaving for the hospital in the dark, sitting in the office charting on the weekends, and wishing he had more time to actually talk to patients.

Searching his soul and trying to determine what he wanted to do with the next phase of his career and his life, he made a list with two columns: "Everything I love about the practice of medicine" and "Everything I hate about the practice of medicine." After completing the list, he realized that a standard office-based practice had too many related items in the hate column and too few in the love column.

He then set about creating a practice that would include only items from the Everything I love column, and vowed never again to do anything from the Everything I hate column. The result was a simple fee-for-service, cash-based practice, free from insurance hassles. He opted out of Medicare, stopped accepting insurance, and jettisoned his office and all associated overhead.

The result of that bold move, was a period of fear followed by experimentation that eventually yielded a high-profit, low-stress practice. He now walks his son to school, travels extensively, and earns more money than he did from his previous standard practice, while working a fraction of the hours he used to put in.

This book shows exactly how he built his practice—and how you can, too. The reasoning behind opting-out of Medicare is explained. He outlines the methods he uses to attract patients who are willing and eager to pay on the spot for home-based care. He tells you best practices he learned through trial and error while he built his new model: what works and what doesn’t. If want to get your life back with a high profit, low stress practice, this book will save years of fear, help you skip the experimentation phase, and ensure that you land high on the learning curve so you can start earning a real living and live a great life, right now.

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Dr. Christopher Segler
Doc On The Run